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Maverick Dem senators meeting with Biden on spending plan

Biden is meeting with Sens. Krysten Sinema of Arizona and Joe Manchin of West Virginia - both of whom have said Biden's $3.5 trillion deal is too big.

WASHINGTON — Editor's Note: The video above is from Aug. 2021.

President Joe Biden was holding face-to-face meetings Wednesday with two moderate Democratic senators who have opposed the size of his signature social and environment package as the White House amped up its drive to win the unanimous Democratic support the huge plan will need to survive in the Senate.

Biden met with Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., and planned a later session with Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. The emerging legislation represents the heart of the president’s domestic agenda, but the two centrists have said the $3.5 trillion, 10-year plan is too big, prompting a delicate hunt by party leaders for a topline figure that moderate and progressive lawmakers can endorse.

Sinema spokesman John Labombard had a positive assessment of the senator's White House session, a good sign in a process that has seen the party's progressives and moderates stake out conflicting demands.

“Today's meeting was productive, and Kyrsten is continuing to work in good faith with her colleagues and President Biden as this legislation develops," Labombard said.

Biden and congressional Democratic leaders endorsed the $3.5 trillion figure, but in recent days have been more tentative about its ultimate size. The party will need every one of its votes in the 50-50 Senate, along with Vice President Kamala Harris’ tie-breaking vote, to move a final package through that chamber, and can lose no more than three Democrats in the House.

The enormous package of far-reaching and complicated policy changes comes with Democrats trying to take advantage of a window when they control the White House and Congress to enact long-sought goals. It faces unanimous opposition from Republicans, who say its proposed expenditures are wasteful and would wound the economy.

The measure's provisions would push utilities to produce cleaner energy, expand Medicare coverage, create new child care and family leave programs and provide free pre-kindergarten and community college.

There would be a slew of tax breaks to help families cope with the costs of health care and raising children. Much of it would be paid for by boosting taxes on the wealthy and corporations.

The White House meetings came as the last of 13 House committees were pushing toward completing work Wednesday on their individual sections of the overall bill.

Among those was the Ways and Means Committee. Chairman Richard Neal, D-Mass., has proposed a revenue package that includes $2.1 trillion in higher taxes, mostly on the rich and corporations.

It also claims other savings from stronger IRS tax enforcement and lowering prices Medicare pays for pharmaceuticals. It also asserts that the legislation itself would spark economic growth, an assertion Democrats have ridiculed when Republicans have used it to claim past GOP tax cuts would be paid for.

Democratic leaders would love to send completed legislation to Biden for his signature in the coming weeks, but many think resolving the policy and political complications the party faces will take much longer. White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters Wednesday that they expect Congress to move the legislation before an international climate conference in November.

Manchin has been an especially outspoken critic of the overall bill. He's called for a “pause” on the legislation, and said Sunday that he could not support $3.5 trillion.

He instead suggested a topline figure in the $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion range. Progressives, who initially demanded a $6 trillion plan, have said cutting the package to Manchin's range would be unacceptable.

The chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Manchin has also told colleagues he opposes a House proposal to offer grants to power companies than provide more electricity from cleaner energy sources and charge fees to companies that don't achieve that.

Asked Wednesday if the administration will have to scale back the plan's climate change provisions, Psaki said those measures are incredibly important to Biden.

Manchin told senators at a closed-door lunch Tuesday that he saw nothing “urgent” in the emerging package, according to two Democrats familiar with the private meeting and granted anonymity to discuss it. He also reiterated his position that the only urgent spending was in the $1 trillion public works package that the Senate approved last month and is awaiting House passage.

At the Ways and Means panel, Democrats are proposing that the top income tax rate rise back to 39.6% on individuals earning more than $400,000 — or $450,000 for couples — in addition to a 3% surtax on wealthier Americans with adjusted gross income beyond $5 million a year.

For big business, the proposal would lift the corporate tax rate from 21% to 26.5% on companies’ annual income over $5 million.

Neal has also proposed a boost in tobacco taxes and new levies on nicotine products that would raise $96 billion over a decade. Asked if that would violate Biden's pledge against raising taxes on people earning under $400,000, Psaki said it wouldn't and added, "This is an idea put forward, there are a range of ideas put forward.”

Republicans on the committee pushed to keep the corporate tax rate at 21%, where it was set by former President Donald Trump’s 2017 tax law. That effort, facing failure in the Democratic majority committee, sparked heated partisan debate over the role of business in the economy and the use of tax loopholes by big corporations to avoid liability.

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Associated Press reporters Zeke Miller, Jonathan Lemire, Lisa Mascaro and Marcy Gordon contributed to this report.

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